BRIBE, SWINDLE
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Join host Alexandra Addison, President & Founder of TRACE, on Bribe, Swindle or Steal as she explores the world of financial crime—corruption, fraud, money laundering and sanctions—and what motivates people to break the law, how wrongdoers cover their tracks and what can be done to put a stop to the looting through interviews with experts in the field.

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November 8, 2023

Menendez Corruption Allegations – Round Two

Jessica Tillipman, Associate Dean for Government Procurement Law at George Washington Law School, joins the podcast to give a fantastic, detailed and fast-paced overview of the latest Menendez corruption allegations, interspersed with gold bars, bundles of cash and a Mercedes convertible. In the process, Jessica takes us back to the overturning of Former Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell's corruption conviction and what we should expect in its wake.

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November 1, 2023

The Death of Sergei Magnitsky: Bill Browder

As Russia's war on Ukraine drags on, we revisit Russian corruption and its weaponization of financial crime in our 2017 interview with Bill Browder. He describes the brazen fraud and violence of Putin's Russia, the death of Sergei Magnitsky, and the passage of the Magnitsky Act. You can also listen to our most recent interview with Bill, discussing his excellent book, "Freezing Order." (That episode was originally published in 2017.)

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October 25, 2023

The DOJ's Revised Evaluation of Corporate Compliance Programs

This week, we're listening in on Jeff Clark's excellent presentation at the recent TRACE Forum in London. Jeff is a partner in Cadwalader's Washington office and discusses the DOJ's revised ECCP, with an emphasis on corporate communications and compensation policies.

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October 18, 2023

The State of Anti-Corruption Enforcement in the UK

This week, we listen in on the presentation of the inimitable Michelle de Kluyver of Addleshaw Goddard at the recent TRACE Forum in London.

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October 11, 2023

Looking Back: The Siemens Scandal

Jessica Tillipman of George Washington Law School covers the highlights and key points from the Siemens bribery case of 2008. It was a startling case at the time and divided the international enforcement landscape into the world before and after Siemens. (This episode was originally published in 2020.)

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October 4, 2023

Trust Us - Episode 4: Inside the Jersey Offshore Investigation

Today's podcast is the fourth and final episode in a four-part guest series produced by the Global Reporting Centre and European Investigative Collaborations. The series tells the fascinating and little-known story about a trove of leaked documents exposing the machinations of a trust company in Jersey, Britain's notorious tax haven.

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September 27, 2023

Trust Us - Episode 3: Inside the Jersey Offshore Investigation

Today's podcast is the third in a four-part guest series produced by the Global Reporting Centre and European Investigative Collaborations. The series tells the fascinating and little-known story about a trove of leaked documents exposing the machinations of a trust company in Jersey, Britain's notorious tax haven.

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September 20, 2023

Trust Us - Episode 2: Inside the Jersey Offshore Investigation

Today's podcast is the second in a four-part guest series produced by the Global Reporting Centre and European Investigative Collaborations. The series tells the fascinating and little-known story about a trove of leaked documents exposing the machinations of a trust company in Jersey, Britain's notorious tax haven.

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September 13, 2023

Trust Us: Inside the Jersey Offshore Investigation

Today's podcast is the first in a four-part guest series produced by the Global Reporting Centre and European Investigative Collaborations. The series tells the fascinating and little-known story about a trove of leaked documents exposing the machinations of a trust company in Jersey, Britain's notorious tax haven.

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September 6, 2023

Preserving Ukraine's Heritage and Thwarting Money Laundering through Art

Yuliia Hnat, Co-Founder of the Museum of Contemporary Art NGO and Ukrainian Emergency Art Fund, and Irina Tarsis, Founder and Managing Director at the Center for Art Law, join the podcast to talk about all that is being done to preserve Ukraine's tangible heritage during the Russian invasion and to catalog art and antiquities to ensure that they can't easily be traded on the international market and can eventually be restored to Ukraine.

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August 23, 2023

Enabling the Enablers

Scott Greytak of Transparency International U.S. joins the podcast to talk about the many loopholes that permit U.S. lawyers to work for criminal actors as they exploit the U.S. financial system. He brings us up-to-date on the ABA's recent change to its Model Rules of Professional Conduct and when we'll see the ENABLERS Act revisited.

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August 16, 2023

"Inside the Iraqi Kleptocracy"

Robert Worth, a journalist previously based in Baghdad with the New York Times and author of A Rage for Order: The Middle East in Turmoil from Tahrir Square to ISIS, describes the deadly and intractable problem of corruption in Iraq. He discusses the role the United States and its pallets of cash played in this, but also the enforced sectarian apportionment of power—the Muhasasa—that ensures each group protects its fiefdom rather than acting in the best interest of the whole country. (This episode was originally published in 2022.)

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August 9, 2023

"Butler to the World"

Oliver Bullough joins the podcast again to discuss his book, Butler to the World. The book addresses how the UK went from a colonial power dominating the world to a service provider—or butler or perhaps consigliere—to the world's oligarchs. (This episode was originally published in 2022.)

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August 2, 2023

"Fool Me Once"

Kelly Richmond Pope, Professor of Forensic Accounting at DePaul University, joins the podcast to talk about her new book: Fool Me Once: Scams, Stories and Secrets from the Trillion-Dollar Fraud Industry. She describes the three types of fraud perpetrators and why we blame the victims of fraud for their gullibility and I ask her whether lawyers or accountants are more at fault for rampant fraud!

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July 26, 2023

"Big Dirty Money"

Jennifer Taub, author, legal scholar, professor and advocate, joins the podcast to talk about her latest book: Big Dirty Money: The Shocking Injustice and Unseen Cost of White Collar Crime. Jennifer focuses, in particular, on how much more gently we treat corporate financial crime than we do very petty financial crime, in spite of the fact that the former costs taxpayers far more money. (This episode was originally published in 2021.)

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July 19, 2023

Carlos Ghosn's "Collision Course"

Hans Greimel and William Sposato, journalists and authors, join the podcast to discuss their book: Collision Course: Carlos Ghosn and the Culture Wars That Upended an Auto Empire. They cover Ghosn's rise to hero status in Japan, his ultimate fall—arrest, detention and escape from the country—and the many compliance challenges raised by this strange story. (This episode was originally published in 2021.)

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July 12, 2023

Board Support for the Compliance Function

Jeff Cottle of Brown Rudnick, and former partner of Norton Rose Fulbright, discusses how to secure and maintain board support, what ideal communications patterns look like and when and how to leave if the board refuses to hear bad news. (This episode was originally published in 2019.)

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July 5, 2023

What Spyware Means for Journalists and Civil Society

This podcast is the second episode in a two-part discussion of the compliance and human rights implications of spyware. After hearing from Chaim Gelfand at NSO Group, we asked Khadija Ismayilova, an investigative journalist in Azerbaijan who is alleged to have been monitored for four years by spyware installed on her phone, to speak to the privacy and human rights issues. (The first half of the conversation has some IT issues, but it clears up in the second half, so please stay with us!) (This episode was originally published in March 2023.)

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July 5, 2023

Pegasus and Compliance in the Age of Cyber Intelligence

The first episode of a two-part series, Chaim Gelfand, Vice President, Compliance, at NSO Group talks about managing compliance for a product that has, baked into its design, complex privacy, corruption and human rights implications. Because of the controversial nature of spyware, we hear from journalist Khadija Ismayilova in the second episode about the allegation that spyware was installed on her cell phone and her concerns about abuse of the technology. (This episode was originally published in March 2023.)

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June 28, 2023

Imprisoned in China

Peter Humphrey and his wife were well-respected compliance professionals active in China when they were arrested, tried and imprisoned unjustly for two years. (This episode was originally published in 2017.)

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June 21, 2023

Canada's First Bribery Acquittal

Jessica Warwick in Norton Rose's Ottawa office joins the podcast to talk about the Arapakota decision and what it means for anti-bribery enforcement in Canada.

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June 13, 2023

"The Power of One": Frances Haugen's Decision to Blow the Whistle on Facebook

Data scientist, whistleblower and now author, Frances Haugen, joins the podcast to discuss her book, which comes out today. Frances describes her journey through tech as an algorithmic product manager, her growing understanding of the risk of radicalization and political violence that Facebook posed and her ultimate decision to blow the whistle when it became clear that Facebook, profiting from outrage, wasn't going to fix itself.

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June 7, 2023

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas

Jesse Eisinger of ProPublica joins the podcast to discuss their investigation into the gifts, travel, tuition, rent and other benefits lavished on Justice Thomas directly—or indirectly for the benefit of family members—by right-wing billionaire, Harlan Crow. Jesse discusses the initial article, the tips they received with additional information after publishing it, and the political backlash to their reporting.

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May 31, 2023

The Outlaw Ocean

New York Times reporter Ian Urbina discusses his excellent but grim series about crime and impunity on the high seas. (This episode was originally published in 2020.)

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May 24, 2023

"Spin Dictators"

Daniel Treisman, co-author of Spin Dictators: The Changing Face of Tyranny in the 21st Century, discusses the new generation of dictators and how they weaponize information, bully with legal action and mobilize enablers to stay in power.

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